Trailer í Χοηφόροι PDF by Ê Aeschylus Personal Response I very much enjoyed the imagery with the snake breastfeeding That was very colorful I would have preferred if Clytemnestra had an elaborate death monologue after being struck down by her son, but the argument they share is still nice.
Plot Summary Orestes, the castaway son of the queen Clytemnestra and the late king Agamemnon, meets his enslaved sister, Electra, at their father s tomb They are informed of how Clytemnestra and her new man, Aegisthus, Killed Agamemnon and of Clytemnestra s vision of her breastfeeding a snake that poisons her Orestes realizes he must be that metaphorical snake and that he must avenge his father by killing the new king and queen He tells the guardsmen he bears new of Her son Orestes death Aegisthus comes out unguarded and Orestes kills him Clytemnestra hears his shout and rushes down with an ax to see what happened She recognizes him and they argue about who is morally right, Orestes than overpowers her and kills her.
Characterization Orestes is much somber and gloomier at the beginning, but once he hears of her vision he becomes cunning and sinister Clytemnestra is much bitter than in Agamemnon.
Aegisthus character is quite consistent, however.
Recommendation I would recommend this to anyone who has read Agamemnon.
The information within is quite essential for this tragedy This would also be great with a small group of people.
THE POST IS SPOILEDThe second part of Aeschylus Orestia, The libation bearers tells the story of Orestes returning home, to revenge the death of a beloved father But it is not only this what the play is about, of course I found myself thinking, at some point while going through my read that I will rate this play 5 out of 5 stars, having liked it than I have liked Agamemnon But after finishing reading the play, I reconsidered the fact Not because i did not like the play any, but because there was a small thing that influenced my rating that is, Orestes attitude, also compared to Sophocles Orestes from Electra But I shall get there immediately Before that, I should like to express some other feelings and opinions.
I found the play interestingly well written in a certain manner that made the play seem better written in my mind , than the others But it should have been the translation and also the imaginary mental tone I used for reading this piece Now, that I use my retrospective memory, I realize that this is actually the reason why I believed it to be so I felt a little arrogant and infatuated, therefore I mentally read with all my might and the play seemed so much dramatic in my head than the others And thus i have discovered that this should be the right way in which one ought to read these kind of works or at least this is the way I actually should do it to better understand the circumstances Even so, I think the chorus to be quite fascinating, the cries infinitely dramatic, and somehow full of an unspoken evilness that is, of course, hidden in the utmost desire of vengeance The libation bearers , a story of cries, of death, the mark of the utmost desire of vengeance, as I have already pointed out already This scene is beautifully pictured the chorus and Electra, at Agamemnon s grave, her beloved and loved father Her cries seem endless and too innocent, for she does not know what to ask for, she is not able to fully understand how she should cry out the name of her father She is aware, nevertheless, that her mother did not love her father so why should she call the name of her father like that, how could she possibly speak up the name of her mother loving her husband in her prayer to her father An ugly lie, that should be Confused as she is, she asks for advice from the servants many foreign women, probably wined in the trojan war This scene is entirely beautiful because it stresses the main point of the first tragedy treason of the wife, treson of Aegisthus and, importantly, the death of Agamemnon, and his right of being buried as king taken away from him from his own wife that he has left behind to wait for him, entrusting her with his home and land, for whom she should have cared than anything else Electra, suffering from the curse of these tragic events, calls out for the name of a righteous killer, to come here and vengeance what should be taken revenge on And then, Orestes appears to become his destinyHowever, we should realize at this point that both Agamemnon and Clytemnestra, his wife, have been in the wrong Not only the last one Both have chosen wicked ways regarding the good of their children, they have not sincerely shared any feelings of love between them and, therefore, they both are traitors of some kind to each other But the Gods should now see the bigger done, and that is the wife s murder, Agamemnon becoming only a victim Because nobody should be speaking bad of a man who died by the hand of his woman, in the given circumstances Therefore not only is this the divine wish, but also the only way in which things are being seen by the others by Electra, by Orestes and his friend, by the chorus, by the people The one who did wrong is Clytemnestra, and her beloved Aegisthus, a mere traitor who deserves nothing but to die his righteous death getting killed by the hand of an indebted and bereaved son.
Therefore, the tragedy of Orestes does not come with the killing of Aegisthus because this was the utmost right thing to do in the given circumstances, but when he desires and succeeds in murdering his own mother The mother has been in the wrong the mother put her name under treason, she betrayed her husband, her children and her home, her own kingdom She had put the reasons of her crime on the shoulders of her killed daughter, the one that Agamemnon sacrificed in the trojan war She gave herself to treason and to lies, not being honest not even in the moment of her betrayal, of her crime She had been affected by pride and she betrayed and killed everything she should have loved Instead of protecting the home, as she should have done, she has been carelessly seduced by Aegisthus to whom she entirely entrusted her heart and kingdom Therefore, she was in the wrong and Orestes had than sufficient motives to murder her Even so, things are not so simple while the murder of Aegisthus shall be forgotten and even applauded, the murder of one s own mother is not so easily forgotten, and nonetheless, never applauded Orestes has doubts but he has to listen to Apollo s prophecy And he does listen, he gets revenge for his father he kills the two lovers, the traitors of the realm, the traitors of Agamemnon, the ones who betrayed Orestes family and clan, he kills the evil Aegisthus and his concubine, the queen, the mother, Clytemnestra What is left for Orestes to do now He can hardly stay, he can hardly listen because all he sees and hears is his fault his fault of being the murderer of his own mother, the one that gave him birth, however bad the circumstances came to be in the end So he has to go he has to run from the Furies, the ones that give revenge, the ones that came after him after his mother s curses Or this is what Orestes feels and believes.
They play is itself is a real big success and I admit I was quite lost in it, having liked it enormously Even so, there is a reason why i gave it 4 out of 5 stars, and I shall now explain it I have not liked the first attitude Orestes had towards the acts he was supposed to carry out He was afraid, somehow like a coward he was ready to give up and run from his duties he needed an impulse, he needed to be told that he was just supposed to revenge his father and nothing I think this thing should have been than clear in his mind, nothing to be doubted This, I may suppose, seems a rather silly reason for which I should retreat one star from my rating But i cannot but do as I already did this fact deeply affected me You see, I am quite conscious of the fact that these works of art are in themselves works of 5 stars, i am quite aware of the fact, but as I have already and repeatedly stressed in my reviews, i cannot but be subjective in my comments Therefore, I respect my subjectiveness, my desires and my feelings at a respective moment when I rate the books I read So this is how it is.
What is , the difference between Sophocles Electra and this work of Aeschylus is quite big and intriguing in the first we find the force that is missing in the second, and that is of course the force I needed in the play, I needed to read and feel that force in Orestes, the force he lacked in Aeschylus piece, I am afraid In Sophocles he is so much decided, not a coward at all, he is powerful and adamant, he has no doubts He acts coldly, as it should be and he feels he cannot but revenge the death of his beloved father with or without the prophecy Here, the prophecy s role is one of the main things, the main reason why Orestes could take up his duty And I did not appreciate that, i did not appreciate it at all The sparkling Orestes, the powerful son who comes in his right to make Justice and takes upon his shoulders the pain of killing a mother, is gone that Orestes becomes one conducted by Gods, by prophecy, merely a coward who, without the impulses of his sister and the chorus, would have given up his duty I feel that this Orestes isn t as strong as Sophocles Orestes So here I am, that is why i cannot rate this book 5 out of 5, even though I enjoyed it to the most.
I also recommend reading Sophocles Electra, much beautiful and powerful than this one This one is indeed beautiful and the verses are wonderful I enjoyed them greatly, Aeschylus did a hell of a job with it, i cannot but agree to that especially the scene that takes place at Agamemnon s grave and even the discussion between Orestes and his mother But something is missing from Orestes attitude At least, this is how I feel.
Produced In BC, Aeschylus Choephori Is The Second Play In The Oresteian Trilogy Many Years After King Agamemnon S Murder At The Hands Of His Wife Clytamnestra And Her Lover Aigisthos, His Son Orestes Returns Home With Pylades To Mourn At His Grave He Has Been Living In Exile And Has Come Back To Argos In Secret His Mission Is To Avenge Agamemnon S Death I read the Robert Fagles translation.
It s better than Agamemnon, No long dialogues, The chorus role is limited, But no big deal happened the whole first half is about Orestes meet his sister Electra and tell her about his revenge plan, the second half is revenge in action.
I still think that Sophocles is better than Aeschylus, I don t think it ll be a fair point of view about Greek plays taken depending on Aeschylus plays only.
A beautiful tragedy written by a master playwright I loved the language and characterization of the play It is a play about vengeance, which is considered just by the gods According to them, bloodstain cannot be washed up but with bloodshed Thus, Orestes was asked by Apollo to avenge his father, and thus fulfilling the divine plan However, this plan will bring him the fury and harmful consequences in the future, but he accepts what the god Apollo asked him to do And Aeschylus gave hints that this will be the last blood, and Orestes will not be punished for it, as Apollo guaranteed What I find a bit surprising in the play is that there is no value for family ties, the relationships among the family members were free from affections, respect, and love no love is there between the married couples, nor love between children and their mother, even the relationship between Electra and her brother is cold Moreover, the news about the death of Orestes did not move his mother neither the killing of his mother and her supplications to spare her life moved Orestes heart, who favored commitment to gods dictation, as well as his duties toward his father rather than his mother At the same time, I find the play, as an ancient tragedy, a great one that sheds light on the human condition, namely, his relationship to Gods and the role of fate in humans life.
Recomendo lerem apenas depois de Agam mnon Muito bom N o tem a profundidade das discuss es de Electra, de Eur pedes, mas o impacto emocional e consequente catarse muito maior, assim Em squilo n o falam pessoas, mas fam lias, as gera es e as for as ocultas da natureza.
From BBC Radio 3 Drama on 3 A new version by Ed HimeThe second play in Aeschylus s classic trilogy about murder, revenge and justice Agamemnon s son Orestes returns home from exile to kill his mother in revenge for his father s murder But where can he find the strength to carry out such a terrible deed BBC Concert Orchestra Percussionists Alasdair Malloy, Stephen Webberley and Stephen WhibleySound design by Cal Knightley Colin Guthrie.
In the second part of the Oresteia, the sins of the father and mother are visited upon the children, an age old story that can symbolize both the inner struggle of individuals to reconcile their dark natures and or genetic predispositions with their personal sense of virtue, and also the larger societal struggle to temper the barbaric and primal drives of the past in order to move toward a just or moral state In each case, we can only break the cycle of our uncivilized past by directly engaging with it Ironically, the only way to save ourselves from societal destruction is to risk self destruction, emerging from the muck with a renewed sense of justice.
Aeschylus spends a great deal of the play explaining why Orestes is the only person who can wield the sword of justice for the gods he is the son of Agamemnon thus a human descendant of the will of Apollo he was not directly implicated in either the sins of his father or his mother, but carries the weight of both their actions he has the support of his family Electra , his community the Chorus , and the gods and he must act to save not only his family line, but also Argos from tyrants who opposed the will of the gods and the people He must kill in order to stop the cycle of killing, but his actions are presented not as murder, but as justice from the gods The play ends as he is hounded by the Furies We are left wondering if he will survive the psychological toll of his actions, setting up the final play of the trilogy, in which he is judged by the gods, the citizens, and himself It is this judgment that moves us from the vengeance of the past into a civilized state of justice, in which we are all held accountable for our actions, whether by judgment of the gods, by our civil society, or by our own consciences.